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Postby odins raven on Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:56 pm

its in corn well suppposedly the spot were arthur s kingdom is, also places in wales scotland isle of man (snay fell were you can seee 7 kingdome, england ireland scotland wales the sea the heavens and the kindom of mannanin
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Postby Angelmouse on Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:44 pm

Wasn't Tintagel where Camelot was built?

I don't really know a lot about the Legend of King Arthur beyond the story itself but it has a huge following as a path in it own right. Is that a hill or something where you can see the 7 kingdoms?

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Postby Angharad on Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:19 pm

there is talk of arthur being buried close to where i live. there is a ruined church there, i'm sure cadno will tell us all about it its called llambad
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Postby Cadno ap annwn on Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:25 pm

I'll have to get some pics of it up for everyone to look at, its a wonderful medival church ruin. Theres also another place that I know in Carmarthen where he is supposed to be burried. As for tintagle is was rumoured to exist on the area of land that has collasped between Lands End in Cornwall and the isles off shore.
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Postby odins raven on Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:04 am

tintagle castle is supposed to be camalot.
the hill is more like a mountain on the isle of mann.

there are a iot of myths surrounding arturous. the round table is supposed to be in scotland. there was something about the lake district as well.
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Postby Angharad on Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:01 pm

does any one know what tintagle means? i,m going to re search this from a welsh language point of vie to see if it ties in anyway to arthur etc as it is said arthur Pen (pen = head in welsh) Dragon and what with merlin being welsh.

the words spelling may have changed over time and looking at the begining of the word Tin could have been Tyn and Tyn in welsh means tight or fast as in hold fast to something
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Postby Cadno ap annwn on Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:45 pm

Be interesting to know that one :)
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Postby odins raven on Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:34 pm

you have ot to remember that tintagle is in cornwell.
althoiugh celtic language have simularities there spleling is a little different to each of the old celt regions.
brittany, cornwell (lyonesse), welsh (snowdon (yr yidfar i think, or something very like that)), lake district, ireland, scotland and manx.
like the word crag, creg etc meaning the same spelt different.

out of interest what is the scottish cornish and welsh for hill? i already know the manx. ( my ex's maiden name is hill her late mum told her she was an old cronk.
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Postby Angharad on Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:58 pm

welsh Bryn, Garth, Rhiw, Tyle i always use Bryn.

i know what you mean by where it was as to the language but who was it named by and what language did they speak
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Postby Cadno ap annwn on Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:54 am

Actually I made a discovery last time I was in Cornwall. I spoke with people from the area and they explained that much of Cornish heritage is actually derived from Wales in the way they name things. So its highly possible considering the amazing similarity. One that jumps to mind is Landividy road, which is spelt how it sounded. Now in welsh that could look like Llandiddy road.

Worth thinking about it isn't it :)
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Postby Angelmouse on Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:23 am

Makes sense because when the Scandinavian invaders and later the Romans, came over, they always would land on the east coast driving the natives, or Pagans if you will, west. These were the 'Celtic' peoples most of which retreated to Wales and Cornwall and I believe it was the Pictish that populated what is now Scotland. Hence the differences between Scottish, Irish and Welsh gaelic and accounting for the similarities between Cornish and Welsh dialects.

As far as I can remember anyway. :D
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Postby Angharad on Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:56 pm

cornish and welsh are very close. i ment a gent about 3 years back who could speak cornish. i remember think how close it was to welsh but i could hear bits of french in it too which may be from the brittany conecction
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Postby Angelmouse on Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:33 pm

Could well be but also we have to remember that our sceptred isle was brimming with French at one point (can't remember which one) and the language of the ruling classes was french. That's why Chaucer was so remarkable (which would make it C14) because he was one of the first to publish works in, what was considered to be at the time, the peasants tongue; 'Middle' English. So it's emminently possible that french peasants, perhaps one time servants etc. became integrated into English society and thus parts of thier language.

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Postby odins raven on Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:15 pm

the normans came mainly from bitaany nost of them had norse heratage, aka me. my given surname name is from the old norse pech.
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Postby Cadno ap annwn on Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:59 pm

What does your surname translate as Odins Raven?
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