Since Pagan Parenting has been of great issue, and a great many of you (parents or not) have many topics of interest on the issue I have decided to share in what I have been doing with my son. I got this book "The Circle Round" by Starhawk, Diane Baker & Anne Hill. I suggest for all who are interest in getting it through a local book store or internet to read for information for yourselves to learn or to start for you to share with your children.
I will give just a BASIC run down what is given in the contents as to show you as to what I mean by Pagan Parenting. It is by no means what is the Basics for an Introductory Witch. You have to think extremely simple. You have got to remember that you are dealing with simpler and angelic minds here. Very clean slates.
Chapter One
The Goddess Tradition and Children
- Here is where you explain about the Goddess tradition, who is the Goddess, Songs, Magic, Elements, Creation Stories and Songs.
Chapter Two
Handing Down the Traditions
-Here is where you learn to do things on THERE time NOT yours! Techniques for a ritual, purifying, making time, grounding, casting a circle calling the directions, Songs, Invoking, Calling the Gods/Goddesses, making Offerings and trying to fit in.
- Altars, tools, crafts
Part two
- nature cycles and then learning traditional tales
Chapter Three
Moon Cycle
-The Goddess
-The God
-The Altar
-The Land
Stories
Rituals Together
Activities
Crafts
Recipes
Chapter Four
Sun Cycle
-Wheel of the Year
-Gates of the Season
Chapter Five (Samhain)
Chapter Six (Yule/Winter Solstice)
Chapter Seven (Brigit)
Chapter Eight (Eoster/Spring Equinox)
Chapter Nine (Beltane)
Chapter Ten (Summer Solstice)
Chapter Eleven (Lughnasad/Lammas)
Chapter Twelve (Mabon/ Fall Equinox)
Part Three
-Moving from one stage to another
- Extending the Family
Chapter Thirteen
-Beginning
- About Birthing, Pregnancy.
-Charms
-Blessings for a Newborn and Ritual
-Umbilical Cord Magic
- Adoption
- Lost and Miscarriage Magic
Chapter Fourteen
Growth
-No more Diapers
-Tooth Fairy
- Night Time Prayers
-lullaby
- not a baby, but not a teen
Chapter Fifteen
Adolescence
- leaving childhood
- preparation
-ritual
-beauty
-sexuality
-youth & maiden lovemaking * here is might where it might concern some; have not gotten here*
Chapter sixteen
Coming of Age
- Other Adults
-Rites of Passage
- First Blood Ritual
-Becoming a Man
-Family Ritual
*There are a total of 22 Chapters. It goes on to explain from Birth to Old age, from the Earth,Air,Fire Water,Spirit Elements. But at least you now know the general idea of what I mean by Pagan parenting. You CANNOT jump around in explaining this to child. It goes as they grow. You cannot push. THEY have to want to learn. If my son is not interested at the time I do not push. He has to want to know. No one want s to have something pushed down there throat. It makes you hate it more and hate it more.*
So, I hope that this helps. I know that there are more and other influential books out there, but this book has helped me thus far. I have only made it to chapter 2. I do not push. We go over some things when certain holidays do come. I make it as simple as possible. No need for drama and all drawn out detail. Children (especially young ones) cannot handle this. Fun and simple and SHORT are the theme! If anyone can get this book it would be great to discuss it with others whether you are a parent or not.
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The Circle Round
by Adarian on Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:42 pm
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by Cadno ap annwn on Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:51 pm
I've never read it myself 
I have to ask a question though, what age does it suggest the learning of invocation?
I'll explain why I ask, I base a lot of what speak about on the troubled times I had as a kid. When you consider the power of a fully invoked entity it could have some serious side effects on a childs development. Take a hormonal teen, throw in the God into that mix and you have some very confused feelings indeed.
Coming back to the point of the book, I like the layout in many ways, you can literally help your child either learn the craft themselves or better explain what you do to them
I have to ask a question though, what age does it suggest the learning of invocation?
I'll explain why I ask, I base a lot of what speak about on the troubled times I had as a kid. When you consider the power of a fully invoked entity it could have some serious side effects on a childs development. Take a hormonal teen, throw in the God into that mix and you have some very confused feelings indeed.
Coming back to the point of the book, I like the layout in many ways, you can literally help your child either learn the craft themselves or better explain what you do to them
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by Adarian on Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:05 pm
It is much better if you get the book, than for me to try to explain it. This does go by age. It is more for the parent to help you in understanding in "how to". It is a one paragraph thing. As an adult you are trying to go and make a big thing about it. It is hard and try to explain it to you.
All it is is simplicity.
* singing a song to a particular deity you want to work with.
* the other I cannot say without quoting exactly what is in the book.
Other than that this is where you as a parent or guardian have to be imaginative with the child into introducing the ways. Be creative as to getting their attention. Their is no set age limit said in the book. It's like going to school. You start like they are going to preschool and go from there. Think like that. It is just like that basically with first degree. You start with the basics and go from there. You cannot start from third degree first and then go back. With children you have to start even smaller. Explain things different as their mentality is different than ours. If you ask them what they see in the clouds they will see more than what we see. If you ask them about the air, or the water you will get different answers than what we do. Even before we got into witchcraft. Their minds are different. This is where we have to be more creative in teaching. They do sit long, nor will they listen long either. The younger is harder as they tend to do it at their own pace. The more they age it will gain on them as this is where it will be more interesting, but you still do not want to push. School and friends and then the whole personal issues are at hand. Let them come to you, watch you and listen to you perform certain things if they want too. This will let them choose what they want.
I am sorry if I could not answer your question the way you wanted. I really suggest that you get the book or any other Parenting book. It might help. This is what I started with my son and his Book of Shadows. I will continue to do so and one day he might actually finish it
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Brightest Blessings!
All it is is simplicity.
* singing a song to a particular deity you want to work with.
* the other I cannot say without quoting exactly what is in the book.
Other than that this is where you as a parent or guardian have to be imaginative with the child into introducing the ways. Be creative as to getting their attention. Their is no set age limit said in the book. It's like going to school. You start like they are going to preschool and go from there. Think like that. It is just like that basically with first degree. You start with the basics and go from there. You cannot start from third degree first and then go back. With children you have to start even smaller. Explain things different as their mentality is different than ours. If you ask them what they see in the clouds they will see more than what we see. If you ask them about the air, or the water you will get different answers than what we do. Even before we got into witchcraft. Their minds are different. This is where we have to be more creative in teaching. They do sit long, nor will they listen long either. The younger is harder as they tend to do it at their own pace. The more they age it will gain on them as this is where it will be more interesting, but you still do not want to push. School and friends and then the whole personal issues are at hand. Let them come to you, watch you and listen to you perform certain things if they want too. This will let them choose what they want.
I am sorry if I could not answer your question the way you wanted. I really suggest that you get the book or any other Parenting book. It might help. This is what I started with my son and his Book of Shadows. I will continue to do so and one day he might actually finish it
!Brightest Blessings!
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by Cadno ap annwn on Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:00 am
Hey no worries Adarian, we've all seen a fair share of copyright wars before now so I can understand why you didn't put it up 
To be honest its sparked a topic of interest anyway for me. As a child I was playing around with a book (which I can't even remember the name of) that taught you how to astral project. I was no older than 7 when I started playing with this so you can imagine how much danger I could have been in.
The point was though, this book was designed for kids and at the time there was nothing in there about protection and so on. I'm guessing things have come a long way and its well worth me checking out some of these books. Oddly enough I have a young nephew who is showing a great deal of interest. I know its not quite Pagan parenting, but its the closest I have right now
Also I'm thinking that invokation question is something that is well worth kicking out there for everyones views. I won't drag this topic into the debate as its a good topic and maybe we can all compare different books on the market here
To be honest its sparked a topic of interest anyway for me. As a child I was playing around with a book (which I can't even remember the name of) that taught you how to astral project. I was no older than 7 when I started playing with this so you can imagine how much danger I could have been in.
The point was though, this book was designed for kids and at the time there was nothing in there about protection and so on. I'm guessing things have come a long way and its well worth me checking out some of these books. Oddly enough I have a young nephew who is showing a great deal of interest. I know its not quite Pagan parenting, but its the closest I have right now
Also I'm thinking that invokation question is something that is well worth kicking out there for everyones views. I won't drag this topic into the debate as its a good topic and maybe we can all compare different books on the market here
I'm a Pagan, I am the ever changing wind, the shifting sands, the turning of the wheel, I am nature
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by Adarian on Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:21 pm
No, it is a good question. And like I said, you do not have to be a parent to be interested or even look at a book . All information is good. It is like re-introducing yourself to a more in depth study. A different study. There are even camps, schools made especially for children just like their are for us. Not many people even look for it. They do not think about it. Next time I go to the Book store here I will look and see if they have a different kind of Raising children in the Pagan style ways books. Just to see.
I would like to see what others think as well. Parents or not .
Then afterward, I will share some of my personal things that I do with my son. Some I will have to say; I will have to keep secret. We have made some family traditions and those won't be shared:wink: Sorry.
Brightest Blessings!
. All information is good. It is like re-introducing yourself to a more in depth study. A different study. There are even camps, schools made especially for children just like their are for us. Not many people even look for it. They do not think about it. Next time I go to the Book store here I will look and see if they have a different kind of Raising children in the Pagan style ways books. Just to see.I would like to see what others think as well. Parents or not
.Then afterward, I will share some of my personal things that I do with my son. Some I will have to say; I will have to keep secret. We have made some family traditions and those won't be shared:wink: Sorry.
Brightest Blessings!
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by Cadno ap annwn on Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:26 pm
Considering who you're talking to I completely understand lol
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by M on Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:39 pm
I'm not a parent, the closest I'm going to get to that is being an uncle! but I found this topic interesting. I had a look online for the book and to see what else came up and also found these (but not sure what they are like or if they are any good):
Celebrating the Great Mother: A Handbook of Earth-honoring Activities for Parents and Children by Cait Johnson and Maura D Shaw
Raising Witches: Teaching the Wiccan Faith to Children by Ashleen O'Gaea
Family Wicca: Practical Paganism for Parents and Children by Ashleen O'Gaea
Pagan Children's Workbook by Lady Eliana
I also found some books on Buddhist parenting and Buddhist books for children, which I never knew existed! It's surprising what's out there.
Gassho,
M
Celebrating the Great Mother: A Handbook of Earth-honoring Activities for Parents and Children by Cait Johnson and Maura D Shaw
Raising Witches: Teaching the Wiccan Faith to Children by Ashleen O'Gaea
Family Wicca: Practical Paganism for Parents and Children by Ashleen O'Gaea
Pagan Children's Workbook by Lady Eliana
I also found some books on Buddhist parenting and Buddhist books for children, which I never knew existed! It's surprising what's out there.
Gassho,
M
Together with all beings, we are part of the great life force of the universe. However much we each seem to be separate, at root we are all one.
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by Adarian on Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:53 pm
See . Isn't it amazing what you can find? I know Raising Witches: Teaching the Wiccan Faith to Children by Ashleen O'Gaea is a good book as well. I used to have some real good sites that had some good workbooks that you could download and print to share, coloring books and such. They are more for the younger children though. The teen sites out there...well, I think are good, but as a family I think it is good to let them research; but it is also good to teach them yourself. Kinda like letting the bird leave the nest. The whole growth, nature thing.
Anyways, back on track. My guy is 7yrs. and will turn 8 yrs. in October. I do alot of study aimed at his age and at his learning style. Each parent, Aunt/Uncle, Grandparent, guardian, or very close friend who knows this child knows his learning capabilities; or atleast should. This should give you the guidelines as to what to introduce at what stage. Reading books first is always very helpful before hand. If you do not books, look online. I will see if have any left in my files. You can find some good information on some of these parenting sites.
M, it is good that you found some Buddhist information. I bet that reading up on one would give you some different insight as I know this is a study of yours (not the kid part, the Buddhist part. Don't know if you will be a parent one day though ). I always say no one can learn too much!
Brightest Blessings!
. Isn't it amazing what you can find? I know Raising Witches: Teaching the Wiccan Faith to Children by Ashleen O'Gaea is a good book as well. I used to have some real good sites that had some good workbooks that you could download and print to share, coloring books and such. They are more for the younger children though. The teen sites out there...well, I think are good, but as a family I think it is good to let them research; but it is also good to teach them yourself. Kinda like letting the bird leave the nest. The whole growth, nature thing.Anyways, back on track. My guy is 7yrs. and will turn 8 yrs. in October. I do alot of study aimed at his age and at his learning style. Each parent, Aunt/Uncle, Grandparent, guardian, or very close friend who knows this child knows his learning capabilities; or atleast should. This should give you the guidelines as to what to introduce at what stage. Reading books first is always very helpful before hand. If you do not books, look online. I will see if have any left in my files. You can find some good information on some of these parenting sites.
M, it is good that you found some Buddhist information. I bet that reading up on one would give you some different insight as I know this is a study of yours (not the kid part, the Buddhist part. Don't know if you will be a parent one day though
). I always say no one can learn too much!Brightest Blessings!
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by Cadno ap annwn on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:58 pm
Hey M, I tell you what it would be great to see some material on how Buddhism tackles the education of our youth in the Buddhism board!!
I know its quite a mainstream religion of sorts (for some reason the term religion doesn't seem to cast quite the right light to me) and comparing it to other mainstream faiths would pretty much give a good all round view
I'm think we're hitting some interesting topics here everyone, I know this is a mainly a Pagan board but to learn about other faiths is also very imporant and something we all agree on.
I won't divert this thread though, so I'll jump in with some chat
I'm seriously considering buying one or two of these Pagan parenting books myself so I can actually pick up some tips. Its something Adarian also said, they cover things in a very basic way that is very accessable to anyone. That can never be a bad thing and you never know, within those pages I might just find an even better way to explain Paganism to people who have a passing curiousity.
Also with the teaching of children, as I've said before I used to be quite opposed to the idea in many ways but that was in regards to coven workings so to speak. But there are literally hundreds of family traditions out there and as we can see here, Adarian even has her own starting!!
Just remind me in 50 years to say to people 'I remember when that particular tradition started'.
I know its quite a mainstream religion of sorts (for some reason the term religion doesn't seem to cast quite the right light to me) and comparing it to other mainstream faiths would pretty much give a good all round view
I'm think we're hitting some interesting topics here everyone, I know this is a mainly a Pagan board but to learn about other faiths is also very imporant and something we all agree on.
I won't divert this thread though, so I'll jump in with some chat
I'm seriously considering buying one or two of these Pagan parenting books myself so I can actually pick up some tips. Its something Adarian also said, they cover things in a very basic way that is very accessable to anyone. That can never be a bad thing and you never know, within those pages I might just find an even better way to explain Paganism to people who have a passing curiousity.
Also with the teaching of children, as I've said before I used to be quite opposed to the idea in many ways but that was in regards to coven workings so to speak. But there are literally hundreds of family traditions out there and as we can see here, Adarian even has her own starting!!
Just remind me in 50 years to say to people 'I remember when that particular tradition started'.
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by Adarian on Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:18 pm
Good idea! You could also start a whole new thread about Buddhist Parenting. It will show that there is a mainstream of different types for all paths to follow for all Parents. Do not want discriminate now do we . (I am being cynical here okay; not condescending) We as pagans always keep open minds so why should it be kept closed to Parenting?
Open up a new thread M. I would be delighted to know .
Hey Cadno. You too!! When you get any books let me know which ones and it would be great to know what it talks about. See if any other parents have this book and maybe the same things will happen. Parents are very concerned about education. This by NO means is any different. I let my son have an open path to any and all paths so he can choose. (My hubby does not like it when I let him go to a church with his friends). I think it helps. He does not get confused; as I have explained it. It is like us here being open to all paths we do not know. He is just beginning on his. Someone just coming into Wicca and finds out about all these different types of paths (like at Magicka in course 1) and you have to choose one sometime that calls to you. You learn about all of them, see which one feels right to you, or see what happens by a God or Goddess calling to you, or whatever else happens and go from there. It is a process. Parenting is nothing different.
Okay, I am rambling again .
Brightest Blessings!
. (I am being cynical here okay; not condescending) We as pagans always keep open minds so why should it be kept closed to Parenting?Open up a new thread M. I would be delighted to know
.Hey Cadno. You too!! When you get any books let me know which ones and it would be great to know what it talks about. See if any other parents have this book and maybe the same things will happen. Parents are very concerned about education. This by NO means is any different. I let my son have an open path to any and all paths so he can choose. (My hubby does not like it when I let him go to a church with his friends). I think it helps. He does not get confused; as I have explained it. It is like us here being open to all paths we do not know. He is just beginning on his. Someone just coming into Wicca and finds out about all these different types of paths (like at Magicka in course 1) and you have to choose one sometime that calls to you. You learn about all of them, see which one feels right to you, or see what happens by a God or Goddess calling to you, or whatever else happens and go from there. It is a process. Parenting is nothing different.
Okay, I am rambling again
.Brightest Blessings!
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by Adarian on Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:37 pm
http://theoracle.freeforums.org/great-news-and-i-need-your-help-for-it-t1017.html
In this link I posted some sites that have some wonderful coloring pages, stories and other ideas for you to do with your children. As I find more in the time I have I will post them.
Brightest Blessings!
*Note to all; I am starting a new job and starting school and my time will be extremely limited so please bare with me *
In this link I posted some sites that have some wonderful coloring pages, stories and other ideas for you to do with your children. As I find more in the time I have I will post them.
Brightest Blessings!
*Note to all; I am starting a new job and starting school and my time will be extremely limited so please bare with me
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